Need advice on sizing VPS (managed)

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Posted by Sonja, 09-13-2016, 11:45 PM
We have used decent performing reseller hosting for some years, but need to move again because our current host is going downhill fast ( EIG bought them ). We are thinking of trying a VPS (managed because we like to sleep at night). but we are unclear on CPU/RAM etc needed to be at least as good as our hosts were before EIG sucke the life out of them. Our current setup is We currently have ~20 cpanel's with WHM (some are test or staging - about 14 clients) Most clients are low traffic Disk Space 50 GB Bandwidth 500 GB cPanel / WHM currently paying $27, but can go a bit higher, for this or better How should we size VPS if we go that way?
Posted by Hyper_H, 09-14-2016, 04:16 AM
You should better choose KVM virtualisation type. You can choose the same 50 Gb, about ram I guess 6 Gb will be enough.
Posted by victor_y, 09-14-2016, 04:37 AM
Considering cPanel / WHM and related deamons require about 1 GB to run and the low server traffic, a server with around 4 GB of RAM will be more than enough, with some room to grow. Servers with 4 GB of RAM usually go for $30 to $40, depending on the provider, with OpenVZ servers being the cheaper alternative than KVM servers. Server management will be dependent on the provider, but will usually add to the price. And here is a list of EIG hosts you can avoid: http://researchasahobby.com/full-lis...panies-brands/
Posted by EugeneWHZ, 09-14-2016, 05:21 AM
VPS is a good idea, but with your current specifications and taking into account your budget that is better to have new reseller account. Just ask direct question to your new host if they are EIG or not, if they have intention to become EIG and do not pay in advance first months. So for me that is better to stay on reseller account and change host.
Posted by Sonja, 09-14-2016, 05:40 AM
Thanks for the list. Does anyone have a list of companies EIG is going to buy and destroy in the next 5 years? That is what I really need.
Posted by Sonja, 09-14-2016, 05:53 AM
Thanks for the mention of KVM vs OpenVZ . These are new terms to me, but I will run study them and come back a bit better prepared!
Posted by Host4Geeks-Kushal, 09-14-2016, 08:34 AM
I wish we had this. If your current host has CloudLinux running on their server, you should be able to see the CPU and RAM usage for your accounts from the cPanel interface. If not, then a good idea is to start with the smallest plan that gives you sufficient amount of bandwidth and storage and scale up as needed. Just make sure you speak to your provider asking how easy it is to scale up and down as needed.
Posted by Nnyan, 09-14-2016, 12:08 PM
I've found that going from a reseller account to a VPS can sometimes have some issues b/c of the differences in how a server is setup. With a reseller you can sometimes peak your resources fairly high if you happen to be on with a bunch of low use accounts. With a VPS you have specific resources dedicated to you. There are situations where you can get better performance on a reseller vs a VPS. If you are happy with your reseller I would recommend that you look for another quality reseller hosting. I'm a huge fan of Innohosting, even though I have moved on from reseller accounts I have directed plenty of clients to them over the years and they have all been very happy.
Posted by MechanicWeb-shoss, 09-14-2016, 12:50 PM
To offer shared hosting VPS is never a viable solution in my opinion. If you want to offer the same features and performance of a decent reseller hosting from a VPS, the end cost would be close to that of a dedi. There are plenty of decent reseller hosting providers who are non-EIG and on WHT.
Posted by SSD-Greg, 09-14-2016, 03:20 PM
Your best bet may be to stick with reseller hosting you'll be better off with reseller hosting because in the end you'll not have to worry about server management. With reseller hosting everything is basically done for you and there are many reseller hosting accounts out here that are able to provide better than what a VPS account would. With VPS you'll have to manage the server and ensure it is kept up to date and secured at all times if not then you have the possibility that the server going offline being hacked and or tampered with. Resellers these days come with many bonus features keep searching on the forums and I am sure you will find a decent provider.
Posted by SenseiSteve, 09-14-2016, 05:08 PM
Can I make the same recommendation? Stick with a reseller package for now. Just go with a decent provider (not an EIG brand). Boy, do we wish we knew what providers EIG was going to purchase next, but that's not public information.
Posted by PlatinumVPS, 09-15-2016, 02:03 AM
@Nnyan, good point. Usually shared web servers have bit older versions of software, like PHP versions, EasyApache, MySQL server, etc. And If you deploy the VPS with WHM today, you will get all latest versions. This may crash your existing websites if transferred without checking compatibility check. Additionally, with VPS, you won't have all necessary Apache and PHP extensions enabled by default. You'll have to enabled them manually. So, before you move to VPS, this compatibility checks and extension checks must be done.
Posted by BrianHarrison, 09-15-2016, 02:16 AM
Careful with your expectations of "managed" -- the definition "managed" varies widely from host to host. If you want to sleep at night knowing that your host is watching over your VPS, then you should really clarify with your new host what sort of monitoring, management and emergency response services they include. Most managed hosts will still expect you to get in touch with them if something goes wrong and you need their help.
Posted by Sonja, 09-20-2016, 10:00 PM
Based on most of the advice, perhaps it may be best to avoid VPS and stick with high quality reseller account until we have a few more clients and greater needs. THen perhaps jump to managed dedicated server.
Posted by net, 09-20-2016, 11:35 PM
If you have the budget, it is best to go for VPS because it will give you the opportunity to install your own software, add modules, edit configuration, etc..... you can't do this on reseller account.
Posted by jakweb, 09-21-2016, 04:45 AM
I read here 4-6 GB ram for 14 clients? That is way over what you need. Low traffic websites means almost no MySQL queries and apache is just idle so 2 GB is plenty, just because cPanel is using half of it just to run. Running another control panel would bring your down to 1GB ram and you would still have plenty of room to grow. What is the point to have so much memory and leave the server doing nothing, the resources should be used but of course some reserve if your server has a traffic peak.
Posted by PUH-Chandrashekar, 09-21-2016, 07:34 AM
4 GB of RAM will be more than enough, with some room to grow. Servers with 4 GB of RAM usually go for $50 to $60, depending on the provider, I think you should go for KVM servers & ask hosting provider about Unmetered Bandwidth.

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