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Posted by mossimo32001, 05-05-2008, 12:00 PM
i would like to ask if you can give me a recommendation who will accept 10,000 email account.. because on my reseller account in H9 they did not accept the 10,000 email... i do not know their dedicated server!!!
Posted by AirborneFive, 05-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Are you looking to setup 10,000 e-mail accounts or send out 10,000 e-mails to various users on a mailing list? If it's the latter, are you sending 10,000 e-mails per day, week or month? If per day/week, you're probably not going to find many shared hosting providers that will allow you to send such amounts of e-mail in such a short period of time.
Posted by mossimo32001, 05-05-2008, 01:43 PM
i looking for 10,000 email account. i think they will send and email every day also this 10,000 email because this is university they will give the students and teacher an email account. so they need it. i do not know how much bandwith it will need. so even dedicated server will not allowed this things? i asked the PLANET and they told me they accept this things but the cost for the dedicated is almost 200 $. or they say it only for their marketing purpose only
Posted by WebbyCart, 05-05-2008, 01:45 PM
Hi, I think you may need a Dedicated Server for this, or at least a decent VPS.
Posted by AirborneFive, 05-05-2008, 01:54 PM
In a best-case scenario, let's say only 70% of your user-base (10,000 member e-mails) sends only 1 e-mail per day. That's a total of 7,000 e-mails being exchanged daily, 49,000 e-mails per week and an average of 1,470,000 e-mails being exchanged monthly (based on a 30-Day period). Given those numbers, you'll more than likely need more than a single dedicated server so you're able to disperse the load and balance it out. Shared & VPS hosting is certainly not in the picture with those type of numbers. As for how to balance the load, that would depend on whether you relying on the server to manage the e-mail or if you're going to be using a third party software to allow automated sign-ups for e-mail addresses (i.e. @mail or something similar).
Posted by mossimo32001, 05-05-2008, 02:11 PM
i lost in what you said As for how to balance the load, that would depend on whether you relying on the server to manage the e-mail or if you're going to be using a third party software to allow automated sign-ups for e-mail addresses (i.e. @mail or something similar). What do you mean about this? thanks airbonefive for continuing answering my thread. can you elaborate!!!
Posted by AirborneFive, 05-05-2008, 02:16 PM
Are you going to be relying on the server software and a control panel (such as CPanel) to manage the e-mails through a single account or are you going to be installing a 3rd Party script to manage the e-mail addresses and accounts? I noted @Mail as it's a rather popular piece of software, as is SocketMail. Basically, I am asking whether you're going to be using a script to manage the e-mail addresses and accounts or relying solely on the server and creating them manually by hand. If you're using a 3rd Party script, chances are you'll be using PHP & MySQL. In that case, you can separate HTTP and MySQL into 2 servers to balance the load. One server will serve your HTTP requests while the other will serve your MySQL requests and manage the database(s).
Posted by masm50, 05-05-2008, 04:27 PM
Universities normally offer in-house solutions with a few dedicated servers in-house just for email. There is no way you could run 10,000 email accounts on a shared server - it would use all the server's resources if people actually use those mail accounts at all. I would either go for a dedicated server as a minimum or if you need to do this cheaply use a hosted solution like GMail for your domain (which an be free with ads). I would love my uni to use GMail - it is just so much nicer to use than Horde.
Posted by AirborneFive, 05-05-2008, 04:56 PM
I've not personally checked, though, will Google allow you to setup 10,000 e-mail accounts through their service? That's a good chunk and last I recall, you are limited to the number of accounts you're allowed to setup unless special arrangements are made.
Posted by Brett M, 05-05-2008, 05:17 PM
Clemson(My University) has Google Apps For Your Domain for all of our 16000 or so undergraduate students, so I do believe it is possible. Contacting Google if you wanted to do something like this would be your best bet.
Posted by kjawaid, 05-05-2008, 05:39 PM
i agree with masm50 normally universities manage there own network as mostly student use email within the campus premises which is connect via LAN, wifi or any other medium, so email sent within the domain email won't use any internet bandwidth. And usually usually universities gets discounted bandwidth. what about the space if you assign 1GB to each email account you need 10,000GB just for email space for user's and more space for backups installation etc For 200$ you can't get this much of space , and from planet you will get an unmanaged server which you have to manage it too
Posted by mossimo32001, 05-06-2008, 02:59 AM
i lost!!! should i say i am very newbie about this things thats why i just open an account in hostnine a reseller one.. i am not a programer or anything like other people here.... yes all of you are right... i will check the GMail. do you mean tthat their email address will be like mossimo@gmail.com not their domain name? Last edited by mossimo32001; 05-06-2008 at 03:08 AM.
Posted by mossimo32001, 05-06-2008, 03:05 AM
yes i will depend on cpanel creating email account. so i should take 2 server...? when i check my perpective client in their domain i found that their is 2 dns they are using so it means that they have 2 server!!?
Posted by masm50, 05-06-2008, 06:36 AM
Having two dns servers (ns1 and ns2 normally) does not mean your client has 2 servers necessarily. You get 2 nameservers even with shared hosting accounts and you can brand those nameservers if you have a reseller account. I am not saying that they don't have 2 servers, just that nameservers don't proove anything. With regards to your question about Gmail for your domain: Your college students would get email addresses @collegename.edu or whatever domain/tld your college has. As Brett said you would need to contact Google directly for any such large-scale email infrastructure need as that is a large number of students. I'm sure you could work something out with them though - and if you are new to this as you say I imagine that running such a large email service is quite a big jump into the deep-end, whereas letting Google do it all for you is pretty easy. If you do end up going with Gmail for your domain, then all you need to do is change some MX records of the domain for email and that is your part basically done. Good luck, -Tim

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