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Posted by ramavps, 02-10-2007, 05:41 PM Hello every body I think that i am the first one who fired that pomp that where is VarHosting where is Rick Now i am announcing that VarHosint is an EXPIRED DOMAIN UNDER NETWORK SOLUTIONS PARKING PAGE visit it now VARHOSTING thanks for whom believes me that VarHosting is loosing every thing with RICK
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-10-2007, 05:45 PM I believe Roj still owns the domain name. And as far as I can tell. It's not expired. Nor is it a Network Solutions parked domain name: Registry Data ICANN Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC. Created: 2004-11-07 Expires: 2007-11-07 Registrar Status: ok Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Name Server: NS2.JUMP-SERVER.NET
Posted by BrettB, 02-10-2007, 07:02 PM Yeah, the domain is working fine, but the WHOIS is protected by a proxy service, so it's not easy to tell who actually owns the domain name, but it does seem to be registered and working properly, so I'm not sure why you're getting a parked NetworkSolutions page.
Posted by Shaw Networks, 02-10-2007, 11:14 PM Loads normally for me; no network solutions parking page. Looks like it doesn't expire until November of this year: http://whois.domaintools.com/varhosting.net
Posted by Decorum, 02-10-2007, 11:38 PM Seems to be some mixup of varhosting.net and varhosting.com varhosting.com expired on 01/28/2007 and is pending renewal or deletion. Several links on Rick's site varhosting.net is pointing to the .com domain, which is under pending renewal og deletion.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-11-2007, 11:02 AM If the domain expired and he closed his doors, that would be the best thing that could happen to his clients. Have you seen his forums? This is after he says everything is now "stable"!
Posted by cunning, 02-11-2007, 11:42 AM varhosting domain's info has been kept pvt by godaddy's ...rofl.
Posted by HostiaWeb, 02-11-2007, 12:23 PM its working fine for me, shows the webhosting site
Posted by CyberHostPro, 02-11-2007, 05:12 PM urmm, thats not allowed for a business! tut. Works fine here too.
Posted by Alicia, 02-11-2007, 10:15 PM I am still waiting for refund that has been promised by them.. it has been 2 months and still no news from Rick and Roj... this kind of scam company should be closed down!
Posted by ldcdc, 02-12-2007, 06:02 AM Guys, the OP made a mistake, as pointed out by Decorum. It's www.varhosting.com that has expired, not the .net.
Posted by Russ Foster, 02-12-2007, 06:16 AM Also jump-server.net which is their anonymous domain as expiered as well Domain Name: JUMP-SERVER.NET Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC. Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: PARK35.SECURESERVER.NET Name Server: PARK36.SECURESERVER.NET Status: ok Updated Date: 07-feb-2007 Creation Date: 02-feb-2005 Expiration Date: 02-feb-2008
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-12-2007, 06:40 AM It's 2008 already? Dang, I was just getting use to writting 2007 on my checks.
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-12-2007, 06:41 AM Ricks asked you repeatedly to contact him on here every time you spam the same information, and every time he does, you hide. Kinda hard to give information when you d that.. Besides, why can't your friend talk for himself? We always hear about "Your friend". Is this "Your friends" account or yours?
Posted by Suffolk Designs, 02-12-2007, 07:51 AM I see they have a "new forum" now, so all threads start from late January, very convenient......
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-12-2007, 08:39 AM There's no real "convenience" in it for Rick or VAR Really. All it did was eliminate the threads that were Pre-Rick, and helped clear the air to a clean, forward way to cut-the-fat and see what issues there are without having to go through 1000000000 threads. There's still a number of bad threads on there even now. So it's not like they're erasing their record.
Posted by Decorum, 02-12-2007, 12:03 PM This thread is becoming more and more of a cliché, with the same issues coming up and up again. This thread was about the a domainname connected to varhosting being expired, which is not the case (.net is still active, .com is pending). There has been so much bashing of varhosting lately, and to be true, its become quite a bore. Especially when you keeping creating more and more threads which end up the same people bashing the same accusations and questions. Try to keep to the subject, and read peoples reply before you come to your conclusions. This is now a lockable thread if you ask me.
Posted by AdamtheNewbie, 02-12-2007, 06:46 PM Has anyone been able to contact them in the past few hours? Their site has been down for over 2 hours now... I am guessing my sites are on the same server as Varhosting.net so I am down to but since they are down I don't know how to contact them (I assume they must know anyway)...
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-12-2007, 07:18 PM click on the forum link in the top right and you get: http://www.imagehost.org.uk/uploads/ce85b56c19.jpg
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-12-2007, 07:25 PM It's been up all day for me..
Posted by AdamtheNewbie, 02-12-2007, 07:43 PM You can get onto this site? www.varhosting.net ???
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-12-2007, 07:45 PM works fine for me (UK)
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-12-2007, 08:06 PM Yes, I can, and have been. You may need to either reboot your computer, modem, or router to get an updated dns cache from your ISP.
Posted by Alicia, 02-13-2007, 03:45 AM hey cengine... I am the one who helped my friend to write to Rick and Roj... wat the heck you are talking about that we hide when he replied to us??? We are the one who paid them and they are they one who cheated us! They r the one who is hiding not us. I think you could still remember LEO! You did reply to our tickets as well but too bad all you could do is to reply the ticket and ask us to wait for RIck. We wrote so many emails/tickets to him. Is either he doesn't reply or ask me to wait for Roj reply that has never come to me. Since nothing has been done by them, of course I need to keep on saying this in this forum because he might view this forum.. It is easy for you to say because you are not one of the victims.,, maybe u r one of their team seems all the while you have been talking something sweet about them.. who knows u r Rick or Roj who is pretending somebody else here. We are not only lost our clients due to varhosting but also feel cheated due to the empty promises. hmmm.. even the amount paid is not a big sum, it is kinda annoying coz nothing can be done to this kind of company.
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-13-2007, 04:05 AM Well, here's a little insight to cut the fat. 1. I'm not "Rick or Roj, petending to be someone else", stop accusing people of that. It's old. 2. I was going by the assumption that every time you post in these threads, rick has asked you atleast once to identify the account and the whole situation for him in that thread so he could see what to do. 3. No. You don't need to troll every single thread with VAR in it to get attention. Rick has a PM box on here, you're more than welcome to use it just like everyone else. 4. VARHosting never guaranteed to KEEP/PROVIDE backups of everyone's accounts on a regular basis, that should have been an indicator to people that they need to backup their own data and keep it themselves if their site is "so important" as they say. People wouldn't be out so bad right now if they'd kept their own backups.. People say their sites are so important, and raise a big stink because of all this, when their site wasn't even important enough for them to spend $5/Month to get an FTP backup space to keep backups of their site. If they'd done that, they could have up and moved ASAP. FTP Backup Services are there to be used for a reason, use them guys. 5. Yes, and I do remember Leo, and last I checked, Rick told you to find Roj, because he's the one that owes you the money. That's what he's been saying every time.. So why don't you keep trying Roj, and stop bothering Rick, because you're just going to get the same response over and over, I'm suprised you haven't gotten that by now. 6. Right now, I'm NOT very "sweet talky" about VAR, as I've been waiting 2 months JUST to get the root passwords again from Rick so I COULD start helping people. And when I get a volume of about 100 emails a day from VAR clients asking for my help, it's kinda saddening when all I can do is tell them the situation and hope and pray. I might as well be crapping in my hand and tossing it up, hoping I don't get hit. So Yes Alicia, I hope it's not to hard to understand the points I'm trying to make here. I'm not trying to be condescending.. If it appears as so, I do apologize. But the illogic is getting a little tiresome when I see you, and a few others, coming in and posting the same thing over and over.. When you guys could have helped yourself from the get-go and did your own backups. Why is it when a site is so important, people won't back it up. And then when it's down, they get mad? I just don't understand that. I thought that's why CPanel even HAD the backup option...
Posted by Alicia, 02-13-2007, 04:26 AM yeah.. we did backup all my clients' files from time to time but there was time where we cant even access cpanel.. does your version of cpanel provide offline backup ?? besides, the problem is not about the files my friend.. it is about the reputation.. that is great coz you still remember Leo huh.. then do you still remember how many times we told rick about our case from the beginning ?? he kept on asking the same questions.. is it some kind of autoresponder or what ?? yeah,, we were trying to get roj and you guys should know what was the outcome.. there is no way I could get his reply even rick.. since rick is the owner, of course we are after him.. you really asking a funny question.. or else who we should talk to? I am not free everyday to check this forum but I will definitely post of message if it is about varhosting.. just to make sure no more victims of such company.. P.S: cant you see there are so many ppl PM rick but no reply from him? You yourself cant even get reply from him sometime... dont you agree ? i apologize if i wrongly accused you of being one of them... but so far, u r the only one who r helping them now.. why cant he come here and explain everything with a single post ? wondering who is hiding now... I am not trying to be rude but think of it will really make me sick.. maybe I should try to stop thinking about varhosting =(
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-13-2007, 06:39 AM The thing about FTP backup is. You run the backup on CPanel, and FTP it to your offsite backup system. You do that every day, and you're only losing 24 hours worth of data when you need to restore or move somewhere else. CRUCIAL CRUCIAL product if you don't have the internet connection to download them yourself. Once you have the backups in your FTP Off-site drive. You can restore them wherever you move to. So reputation is still intact if you do things right. There's only a limited amount of things you should rely on your provider for, and them providing backups is definantly not one of them, I can tell you by experience. It's not worth it to expect someone else to watch and store items for your account. To me, my account, and the data on my account are very very important to me, which is why I don't mind shelling out another $130/M to softlayer so I can have about 220GB of backup space and run backups on my other servers every 12 hours and have it automatically sent to my offsite with no problems.. It's all about retention, and I wouldn't trust anyone more with that responsibility than myself. It might not be exactly clear to you guys now why I'm going this route in this conversation, and for everyone who's having this issue now with VAR or any other provider, but I hope after this is all over with, that there will be a VERY large number who will heed to this lesson. (BTW, I'm not disagreeing with your reasoning for going through threads and doing all this, but I'm just saying, it's getting a bit repetative.. People who search for it, are ultimately going to find the same people posting, the same posts, etc. It's all, kinda, bleh).. That's all on that. All I can basically say is if you can't get ahold of either Rick or Roj, might be time to just cut your losses, and move on.. You can sue, 5% chance of winning on that though. I do anticipate, pending if Rick ever reads my proposal, there will be a drastic reform if I'm allowed to do what I'm planning to do with VAR. But it's been almost 3 weeks, and he's still "thinking" on it. Once I do take that part of the ship over, if it would be the case, there would be alot of good things happening, alot of customer interaction on performance and suggestions, and other things. Unfortunately, there would be drawbacks for the clients, as the first thing I would have to enforce is the following: - If whoever hasn't been transfered from the old servers to the new servers doesn't have their own backup to restore, they'd either have to cut their losses or start over from suare one with a credit applied to their account. - All billing records would have to be striked, the last 3 months would have to be written up as a "Moral F*** Up", if you will, and promise to never ever ever let it happen again.. And those who've prepaid would receive their remaining balance credited to their account and brought back in on square one. It's not the best method of doing things, but it's a fresh start that needs to happen if progress will ensue with VAR. There will be ALOT of people that probably wouldn't agree with my method above, but I think it's the only thing that's going to save the company at all. Either Rick allowing me to take over the manual operations of it so he can get back to owning it, or him heeding my advice.
Posted by Suffolk Designs, 02-13-2007, 06:51 AM Fair enough, makes sense to remove threads that were caused by the previous owner.
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-13-2007, 03:26 PM varhosting.net now resolves to varhosting.com
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-13-2007, 06:18 PM Wrong again. Either something's messed up on your computer, or your ISP is doing a strip tease.
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-13-2007, 07:06 PM wrong again? when did i last do something wrong pray tell?
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-13-2007, 09:15 PM Not reading the initial posts, and posting something without doing more research. Schmoopie.
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-13-2007, 09:33 PM tosh. if you look at the above posts you'll see that quite some time ago i posted a screen dump of the site not resolving. so, do your own research sunshine.
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-13-2007, 09:44 PM 1. Doesn't show the domain name, so you could be falsafying that image. 2. going to http://www.network-tools.com/default...varhosting.net can easily tell you where it's resolving to. And that link does not fall prey to residential ISP DNS cache's.. So it 99.9999999% doesn't make a mistake.
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-14-2007, 02:23 PM what seriously? i went to the trouble of making up an image in order to contradict an earlier post i made myself?
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-14-2007, 02:48 PM Ok, relax there Gaucho. I'm not gonna get in a fight about something as stupid as this is. All I'm saying is do a little more research next time please. Bookmark www.network-tools.com please Thanks!
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-14-2007, 03:23 PM no, excuse me here. i made a simple post stating that from where i was it was resolving ok. I was not saying it was resolving ok for everybody, just from where i was, and we all know how funny dns can be on occasions. for that post i get wrong again, wrong what? then i'm forging images, nice. You can;t make derogatory remarks to people without expecting them to pick you up on them, and then accuse them of being grumpy as a result.
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-14-2007, 03:33 PM Mate, I apologize. I was tired, and I don't really remember much from last night anyhow (skipping the medical drama as my personal life doesn't need divulging).. (I wasn't accusing you of being Grumpy just in my last post. Gaucho is another word for "Cowboy". As in, "Okay, relax their cowboy." No harm meant, just pullin your leg. Sometimes my humor is miss-stepped, and I'll count this as one of those times.) It's not really a big issue mate, I was just poking fun at you in the beginning, but now that I see you're being serious, I just tried to tone things down and send you a link to check things on better next time. I'm not trying to rough your bed sheets or anything. It's all in good fun with me mate.
Posted by cunning, 02-14-2007, 04:06 PM CEngine.. If Rick doesn't give you root passwords..it's quite understood..he doesn't want your services..I don't understand why you are relating yourself to this company ..and posting that "4. VARHosting never guaranteed to KEEP/PROVIDE backups of everyone's accounts on a regular basis" - Were you there from the begining of their launch..No - Yes, everyone should have their own backups..but sometimes customers rely on hosts / person but they can ditch..no one knows.!
Posted by cunning, 02-14-2007, 04:10 PM IMO.. I don't feel for Rick because it is clear that he wasn't experienced to handle a good number of clients but I blame the previous owner who has failed in every business ( boasting client satisfaction in almost every forums, no matter he has made money selling the current hosting division) Those who cheat clients can never stop, I am sure he is making some plans elsewhere and targeting some other niche to make money... It's a good experience for the buyers to understand the situation..
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-14-2007, 04:14 PM Cunning, He PM's me quite a bit, but it's only to catch up or rehash what's already been said because he's usually too busy to even remember who I AM. And yes, I was, I was a client at the beginning of their launch, but you wouldn't know that would you? So you'd rather "assume" that I wasn't, correct? I read their TOS when I joined, and I kept my own backups from the get-go too. I expect things of my car mechanic, but if he doesn't advertise something, I don't expect it. For that, I go to a place that does advertise it, or do it myself. So that way, if crap flies from the monkey's hands.. I know what I did, what I can do, and how long it will take (moving to a new host and uploading my backup) to fix it.
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-14-2007, 04:16 PM Agreed ont he Rick part, and I actually think the only thing Roj succeeded in was Tripod Support. I think that was about it.
Posted by cunning, 02-14-2007, 06:48 PM He failed in that too!. I don't have time to check whether the TS site would even load for me.
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-14-2007, 07:59 PM All I know, is he still has employee's under that company, and they're still there.
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-14-2007, 08:14 PM staff maybe, but what i want to know is how has he still got customers? why is it all of roj's companies go bad?
Posted by VPSHelp, 02-14-2007, 08:19 PM Coincidentally, and sad for the history of it.. He starts them up, then he goes absent for LONG periods of time..
Posted by AL-Benjamin, 02-14-2007, 08:27 PM ahh hostcharge....
Posted by anon-e-mouse, 02-16-2007, 06:34 AM Sounds good to me And as it appears they have their own forum up and running, this is closed. Any future problems can be posted at the host's forum.
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