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Posted by webdesign, 04-17-2002, 02:21 PM
Ok I have been reading a ton on here over the last 2 days and the info has been really useful. I am starting a hosting service and have been considering: IIC NET XISM EXMASTERS Dialtone Does anyone have any recent experience with any of them? (recent being....the last 6 months or sooner) Also what is the difference between MBPS connections and GB in bandwith terms? I am looking to host both adult and non-adult sites. Be that as it may I am looking at possibly some very heavy bandwith and storage considerations and uptime will be extremely important. Support is important too as i'm new to reselling. Few things I would like: The ability to resell dedicated servers. Also to offer both UNIX and Windows Plans. Anyone who could offer some advice it wold be greatly appreciated. I want to get started with a reputable company right away. Joe <> Last edited by Chicken; 04-18-2002 at 08:07 PM.

Posted by webdesign, 04-18-2002, 03:47 PM
I can't belive as helpful as this board seems to be that no one wants to offer ant suggestions??

Posted by DutchSchultz, 04-18-2002, 04:19 PM
Not that we don't want to help you. The fact is that we don't have experience with above list you requested. My 2 cents.

Posted by Andyc, 04-18-2002, 05:36 PM
Whenever I want info on a particular host I always search the forums and see what was said in previous threads. Andy

Posted by Chicken, 04-18-2002, 08:09 PM
These are the only two I've had *any* experience with. Web229 a long time ago (I've posted info about this), and Dialtone but not as a reseller or using their services.

Posted by webdesign, 04-18-2002, 11:24 PM
I searched through the boards like a hound before posting guys. I was just hoping that someone know of these companies and had some recent experience with them. But outside of that, can someone still tell me the difference between a MBPS and GB? And what companies would you suggest for my situation?

Posted by MCHost-Marc, 04-18-2002, 11:26 PM
1mbps equals to about 320GB

Posted by jerrymatchel, 04-21-2002, 02:50 AM
please read the forum rules... -kunal >> Last edited by kunal; 04-21-2002 at 04:03 AM.

Posted by webdesign, 04-21-2002, 01:42 PM
If you're going to comment please tell me what you mean dosen't say much. If i've broken some rule then the mod's can point it out. Why don't you try to be helpful instead of just making an uncalled for comment.

Posted by Chicken, 04-21-2002, 01:52 PM
webdesign... Kunal (a moderator) edited jerrymatchel's post as it was just advertising. This wasn't what jerrymatchel posted, it was the edit directed at jerrymatchel (not you).

Posted by webdesign, 04-21-2002, 03:02 PM
My Apologies

Posted by zRedDice, 04-21-2002, 03:09 PM
webdesign: I do have to agree that kiwi is right on the amount of Gigs equal to 1 MBPS, but do remember that that number is only if you push that connection to the max 24/7... which you'll never do (probably)... Just my .02 - James

Posted by nmihosting, 04-23-2002, 08:22 AM
From your orginal list of possiblilties I would recommend Dialtone. We had a server with them until about six months ago. Their customer support is great and they will definatley go further than most to meet your needs. You could also try WebReseller.net - you will get more for your money than at Dialtone. Hope this is helpful

Posted by stevekn, 04-24-2002, 01:50 PM
Also what is the difference between MBPS connections and GB in bandwith terms? Technically, MBPS means MegaBytes Per Second, and is a measure of BANDWIDTH! A 1MBPS line should allow 1 MegaByte to be transferred in a second! In other words, bandwidth is a measure of quantity with a time element attached. This is similar to a pump being rated in Gallons per minute, or how fast you get the quantity you want. GB (GigaBytes) is a measure of QUANTITY and is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT! GB is a measure of quantity with NO time element! This is similar to a container being rated in Gallons, or how much you can hold/use. What is the difference? Let's say they offer you 40GB/month. Does that mean that you have access to ALL bandwidth(probably 10MBPS-1GBPS), and are merely limited to 40GB per month? OR does that mean you have 128Kbps NON BURSTABLE and NO limit because 40GB is all you can do? BTW, burstable means you may have access to more BANDWIDTH when you need it. I have heard too many horror stories of people hooked up to a fast server, but limited as to how fast it can transfer information. Steve

Posted by stevekn, 04-24-2002, 02:05 PM
BTW, many ISPs do not allow X rated sites! ALSO, many X rated sites spam in nearly every way imaginable, including a method I was shocked to see used so BLATENTLY. I call it retroactive search engine spamming. Maybe someone here has a term for it, but I haven't seen much talk about even the possibility. And another I would call remote hit spamming. This one was VERY common with affiliate sites, and turned the whole industry on its head. In fact, it makes the idea of counting hits, etc.... just about WORTHLESS in many cases! ALSO, this taints NON xrated IPs, etc.... If you spam, even in the now obscure ways, you EVENTUALLY will probably get shut down. ALSO, credit card discounts and fraud are high on X-rated "businesses". If you are halfway decent, and want to do this and not pay an arm and a leg, you would need at least TWO distinct server computers. Each with an entirely different IP address(to avoid shutdowns of the non x rated box, and tainting your customers assets). You will also need two ENTIRELY different companies! Not only to avoid tainting sites, but to allow you to get two different merchant card accounts. Not only to avoid tainting, and avoid a complete shutdown of your merchant accounts due to fraud, but ALSO to get another 1-2+% profit on your NON xrated stuff! Steve

Posted by webdesign, 04-24-2002, 03:02 PM
Thanks for your thoughts. I have considered what you suggested about two seperate hosting enviornments and am leaning completely in that direction. Besides it would allow me to target market in a much better fashion. I have set up a pretty strict TOS about spamming and I won't hesitate to shut a site down in a heartbeat for it. Besides if they do I keep their money with NO refunds. This will apply to adult and non-adult sites alike. So I've got nothing to lose here sans maybe a little bandwith. Then again it just opens a slot for a more mature webmaster who knows how to do the right thing.

Posted by webdesign, 04-24-2002, 03:12 PM
You are absolutely right about the high rate of credit card fraud for adult businesses. However after negotiating with several different Processing companies on this - IT IS NOT the case for hosting companies that host adult sites on their servers. I will be required to have no up front deposits with the CC company I choose and will also be entitled to no reserve (holdbacks) on my funds. Just so everyone knows by the way - News hit the adult market this week that Mastercard may discontinue the use of third party billing companies like PayPal, CC Bill, IBill, and the like. This would apply to both adult and NON-ADULT businesses alike. So anyone out there using third party billing software better get a merchant account now because it looks like this one is going to make it down the pipes real soon. A link to the article below: http://www.usatoday.com/money/tech/2...-19-paypal.htm Thanks again, Joe



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